"bestes" stepping bei p4

[raven]

hallo!

welches stepping ist denn jetzt das beste in bezug auf oc fähigkeiten bei intel prozessoren?

es ist sicher nicht nur für mich interessant....

am besten wäre eine aufstellung mit standard vcore, standardtakt, maximal erreichbarer takt bei standard vcore (damit meine ich 24+ stunden prime stable oder vergleichbar)

thx

 

[CM50K]

hi harry,

ein bestimmtest STEPPING gibts bei P4´s nicht...
dieses z.b. SL6EW beim 2400C FSB800 ist zwar das sog. stepping, aber so heissen ja alle z.b. 2400C FSB800!

beim P4 ist das OCen lotto...
ob der P4 aus COSTA RICA oder aus MALAYSIA kommt, ist auch völlig latte (ich weiss, dass ich dich das gefragt hatte ), aber lies
dir mal das hier durch:

Just to clear something up, the markings on the back of the CPU refer to the packaging site - not the manufacturing site of the actual silicon chip itself. Intel has no fabs in either Malaysia or Costa Rica, they are packaging facilities. The silicon die/chips are manufactured elsewhere in the world and are shipped to either of these two packaging sites. In addition, Intel manufacturing has a goal of running a "virtual fab" - meaning that, among other things, products from one fab are statistically indistinguishable from those manufactured at another fab. So even if, for example using fake names, Malaysian packages used chips only from fab #1 and packages marked Costa Rica use chips from fab #2, there should be no difference statistically between these two.

I saw these discussions back in the Celeron days, and I commented back then, but this time around it seems a little different. I have started seeing some online retailers charging more for parts from a specific packaging site and this disturbs me. There is no difference between parts from these two packaging sites. Just as you can have 6 head/tails coin tosses come out heads, there may seem to be a correlation that heads is more likely than tails, but there isn't. In reality the odds are still approximately 50/50.

The silicon is what defines the speed of a CPU, not the package. And the silicon comes from multiple fabs scattered all over the place that are all supposed to be identical anyway.

If you are considering spending more, or buying from a shadier vendor, in order to get a specific package, I would urge you to reconsider. There is no difference and you are only wasting money, and or risking getting ripped off.

Patrick Mahoney
Microprocessor Design Engineer
Intel Corp.

There's been a lot of discussion about which Northwoods are better... Ones "made in Costa Rica", or the ones "made in Malaysia." The problem is, no Northwoods are manufactured overseas. All are made in the USA, with the vast majority coming from Fab20 in Hillsboro, OR. They are packaged (in the Socket 478) overseas, but that has no effect on the overclockability.

Normally, these discussions don't raise an eyebrow from me... But lately I've seen resellers charging more for "made in Malay" chips. And in my opinion, this is a ripoff. I just don't want to see people get taken.

Wingznut
.13µ Lithography Technician
Intel Corp.



diese bestimmten steppings, wie z.b. bei AMD mit dem JUIHB beim 1700+, wo man die garantierte OC-fähigkeit soz. ablesen kann, wird man bei INTEL nicht finden

 

[Avalon]

....das kann man bei amd genausowenig.

98% ist einbildung, an den restlichen 2% ist was dran

 

[raven]

Original geschrieben von CM50K
Intel has no fabs in either Malaysia or Costa Rica, they are packaging facilities. The silicon die/chips are manufactured elsewhere in the world and are shipped to either of these two packaging sites.
The silicon is what defines the speed of a CPU, not the package. And the silicon comes from multiple fabs scattered all over the place that are all supposed to be identical anyway.


There's been a lot of discussion about which Northwoods are better... Ones "made in Costa Rica", or the ones "made in Malaysia." The problem is, no Northwoods are manufactured overseas. All are made in the USA, with the vast majority coming from Fab20 in Hillsboro, OR. They are packaged (in the Socket 478) overseas, but that has no effect on the overclockability.

ich dachte, daß die außerhalb amerikas gedruckt werden, komisch, was fehlinformationen alles ausmachen.... und daß die nur in malaysia, den philippinen oder auch costa rica gepackt werden wußte ich auch nicht....
manche shops sagen (glauben zu wissen), daß die chips in malaysia besser wären als die von costa rica --> reine abzocke und dann sagen sie "selected chips" dazu ar***lochverein!

 

[CM50K]

du kannst mit einem costa rica glück, aber auch pech haben, genau wie mit einem malaysianer oder philli...

das "hand selected" ist natürlich meistens abzocke!
es sei denn, sie sind wirklich pre-tested...

 

[Ossi]

wobei der preisunterschied schon derbe is...normal 2,4Ghz = 180€ "selected" = 210€ :S

muss dazu sagen das ich vor kurzem auch nen "selected" im p3d forum gekauft hab...hab 142 incl. bezahlt und naja, frag mich nu obs richtig war...