Knogle
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Ich gruesse euch liebe Community.
Seit etwa 2 Monaten habe ich nun mein neues Setup, bestehend aus X370 Killer SLI, RX Vega 56, Ryzen 2700X.
Ausserdem ein neuer 2k Bildschirm von Samsung der mit DP angeschlossen ist.
In der Anfangszeit lief alles prima, ich habe meinen Bildschirm angemacht, und dann am PC auf den Power Knopf gedrueckt und das Ding ist hochgefahren.
Nun in den letzten 1-2 Wochen treten massive Probleme auf.
Wenn ich den Bildschirm als erstes anmache, dann den PC, heulen die Luefter im PC auf, und der Bildschirm bleibt schwarz.
Dann druecke ich die Reset Taste, die Luefter heulen wieder 3-4 mal auf, als ob das Ding 3-4 mal neu booten wuerde, und dann bekomme ich Bild, manchmal auch nicht.
Heute bin ich soweit gekommen dass nach 5 Minuten Kampf endlich das GRUB Bootmenu da war.
Dann bin ich in Ubuntu reingebootet, lief erstmal alles, und dann wurde der Bildschirm komplett schwarz.
Das habe ich haeufiger, dann muss ich wieder die Reset Taste auf dem PC klicken, und hoffen dass es diesmal geht.
Immerhin habe ich diesmal ein Log ueber den Crash unter Ubuntu, kann man evtl. da erkennen welche Komponente verantwortlich ist fuer dieses Problem?
Anbei das Log
Seit etwa 2 Monaten habe ich nun mein neues Setup, bestehend aus X370 Killer SLI, RX Vega 56, Ryzen 2700X.
Ausserdem ein neuer 2k Bildschirm von Samsung der mit DP angeschlossen ist.
In der Anfangszeit lief alles prima, ich habe meinen Bildschirm angemacht, und dann am PC auf den Power Knopf gedrueckt und das Ding ist hochgefahren.
Nun in den letzten 1-2 Wochen treten massive Probleme auf.
Wenn ich den Bildschirm als erstes anmache, dann den PC, heulen die Luefter im PC auf, und der Bildschirm bleibt schwarz.
Dann druecke ich die Reset Taste, die Luefter heulen wieder 3-4 mal auf, als ob das Ding 3-4 mal neu booten wuerde, und dann bekomme ich Bild, manchmal auch nicht.
Heute bin ich soweit gekommen dass nach 5 Minuten Kampf endlich das GRUB Bootmenu da war.
Dann bin ich in Ubuntu reingebootet, lief erstmal alles, und dann wurde der Bildschirm komplett schwarz.
Das habe ich haeufiger, dann muss ich wieder die Reset Taste auf dem PC klicken, und hoffen dass es diesmal geht.
Immerhin habe ich diesmal ein Log ueber den Crash unter Ubuntu, kann man evtl. da erkennen welche Komponente verantwortlich ist fuer dieses Problem?
Anbei das Log
Code:
May 4 09:29:14 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 39.362476] [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* ring gfx timeout, signaled seq=162, emitted seq=163
May 4 09:29:14 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 39.362539] [drm:amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* Process information: process gnome-shell pid 1690 thread gnome-shel:cs0 pid 1696
May 4 09:29:14 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 39.362542] amdgpu 0000:28:00.0: GPU reset begin!
May 4 09:29:25 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 50.104515] [drm:amdgpu_dm_atomic_check [amdgpu]] *ERROR* [CRTC:47:crtc-0] hw_done or flip_done timed out
May 4 09:29:35 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 60.344487] [drm:amdgpu_dm_atomic_check [amdgpu]] *ERROR* [CRTC:49:crtc-1] hw_done or flip_done timed out
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop gnome-software[3147]: enabled plugins: desktop-categories, fwupd, os-release, packagekit, packagekit-local, packagekit-offline, packagekit-proxy, packagekit-refine-repos, packagekit-refresh, packagekit-upgrade, packagekit-url-to-app, shell-extensions, ubuntuone, appstream, desktop-menu-path, flatpak, hardcoded-blacklist, hardcoded-featured, hardcoded-popular, modalias, packagekit-refine, rewrite-resource, steam, odrs, packagekit-history, provenance, snap, systemd-updates, generic-updates, provenance-license, icons, key-colors, key-colors-metadata
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop gnome-software[3147]: disabled plugins: dpkg, dummy, repos, epiphany
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop dbus-daemon[1223]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.fwupd' unit='fwupd.service' requested by ':1.172' (uid=1000 pid=3147 comm="/usr/bin/gnome-software --gapplication-service " label="unconfined")
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop systemd[1]: Starting Firmware update daemon...
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop dbus-daemon[1223]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.bolt' unit='bolt.service' requested by ':1.176' (uid=0 pid=3165 comm="/usr/lib/fwupd/fwupd " label="unconfined")
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop systemd[1]: Starting Thunderbolt system service...
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop boltd[3177]: bolt 0.7 starting up.
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop boltd[3177]: config: loading user config
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop boltd[3177]: bouncer: initializing polkit
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop boltd[3177]: udev: initializing udev
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop boltd[3177]: store: loading domains
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop boltd[3177]: store: loading devices
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop boltd[3177]: power: force power support: no
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop boltd[3177]: udev: enumerating devices
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop dbus-daemon[1223]: [system] Successfully activated service 'org.freedesktop.bolt'
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop systemd[1]: Started Thunderbolt system service.
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop fwupd[3165]: failed to add /sys/firmware/efi/esrt/entries/entry0: ESRT GUID '00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000' was not valid
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.948991] [drm] REG_WAIT timeout 10us * 160 tries - submit_channel_request line:246
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949077] WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 3165 at drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/../display/dc/dc_helper.c:249 generic_reg_wait.cold.3+0x25/0x2c [amdgpu]
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949078] Modules linked in: rfcomm pci_stub vboxpci(OE) vboxnetadp(OE) vboxnetflt(OE) cmac bnep vboxdrv(OE) edac_mce_amd kvm_amd kvm irqbypass nls_iso8859_1 snd_hda_codec_realtek snd_hda_codec_generic ledtrig_audio snd_hda_codec_hdmi snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec snd_usb_audio snd_hda_core snd_usbmidi_lib snd_hwdep crct10dif_pclmul snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event crc32_pclmul joydev input_leds amdgpu ghash_clmulni_intel snd_rawmidi snd_pcm chash snd_seq btusb btrtl amd_iommu_v2 btbcm gpu_sched btintel aesni_intel ttm bluetooth drm_kms_helper aes_x86_64 crypto_simd wmi_bmof mxm_wmi ecdh_generic cryptd snd_seq_device glue_helper drm snd_timer fb_sys_fops syscopyarea sysfillrect sysimgblt snd soundcore k10temp ccp mac_hid sch_fq_codel parport_pc ppdev lp parport ip_tables x_tables autofs4 mlx4_ib ib_uverbs mlx4_en ib_core uas usb_storage hid_generic usbhid hid mlx4_core ahci igb i2c_piix4 libahci devlink nvme i2c_algo_bit dca nvme_core gpio_amdpt wmi gpio_generic
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949113] CPU: 0 PID: 3165 Comm: fwupd Tainted: G OE 5.0.0-13-generic #14-Ubuntu
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949114] Hardware name: To Be Filled By O.E.M. To Be Filled By O.E.M./X370 Killer SLI, BIOS P5.10 12/17/2018
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949179] RIP: 0010:generic_reg_wait.cold.3+0x25/0x2c [amdgpu]
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949181] Code: e9 37 7e fe ff 44 8b 45 20 48 8b 4d 18 48 c7 c7 40 34 f9 c0 8b 55 10 8b 75 d4 e8 3b ce 60 e1 41 83 7d 20 01 0f 84 0c c3 fe ff <0f> 0b e9 05 c3 fe ff 55 48 89 e5 e8 5d de ec ff 48 c7 c7 00 a0 fa
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949182] RSP: 0018:ffffaf5c0a93fbb0 EFLAGS: 00010297
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949184] RAX: 0000000000000049 RBX: 00000000000000a1 RCX: 0000000000000000
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949185] RDX: 0000000000000000 RSI: ffff90a9fea16448 RDI: ffff90a9fea16448
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949185] RBP: ffffaf5c0a93fbf8 R08: 0000000000000001 R09: 00000000000004b9
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949186] R10: 0000000000000004 R11: 0000000000000000 R12: 0000000000004c46
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949187] R13: ffff90a9f93fd080 R14: 00000000ffffffff R15: ffff90a9f93fd080
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949188] FS: 00007fc2c36a2b40(0000) GS:ffff90a9fea00000(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949189] CS: 0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 0000000080050033
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949190] CR2: 00007fc2c084f000 CR3: 00000007ef2e8000 CR4: 00000000003406f0
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949191] Call Trace:
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949262] submit_channel_request+0x3fd/0x780 [amdgpu]
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949324] dc_link_aux_transfer+0xc6/0x150 [amdgpu]
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949392] dm_dp_aux_transfer+0x61/0x130 [amdgpu]
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949399] drm_dp_dpcd_access+0x75/0x110 [drm_kms_helper]
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949405] drm_dp_dpcd_read+0x33/0xc0 [drm_kms_helper]
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949411] auxdev_read_iter+0xe6/0x1a0 [drm_kms_helper]
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949415] new_sync_read+0x109/0x170
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949417] __vfs_read+0x29/0x40
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949419] vfs_read+0x99/0x160
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949421] ksys_read+0x55/0xc0
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949422] __x64_sys_read+0x1a/0x20
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949424] do_syscall_64+0x5a/0x110
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949427] entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x44/0xa9
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949428] RIP: 0033:0x7fc2c6845d94
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949430] Code: 84 00 00 00 00 00 41 54 49 89 d4 55 48 89 f5 53 89 fb 48 83 ec 10 e8 5b fc ff ff 4c 89 e2 48 89 ee 89 df 41 89 c0 31 c0 0f 05 <48> 3d 00 f0 ff ff 77 38 44 89 c7 48 89 44 24 08 e8 97 fc ff ff 48
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949430] RSP: 002b:00007fffaecc5f40 EFLAGS: 00000246 ORIG_RAX: 0000000000000000
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949432] RAX: ffffffffffffffda RBX: 0000000000000012 RCX: 00007fc2c6845d94
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949432] RDX: 0000000000000001 RSI: 00007fffaecc5fa4 RDI: 0000000000000012
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949433] RBP: 00007fffaecc5fa4 R08: 0000000000000000 R09: 00007fc2c682cc40
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949434] R10: 0000000000000004 R11: 0000000000000246 R12: 0000000000000001
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949434] R13: 00007fffaecc6010 R14: 0000000000000001 R15: 0000558c9cf76ec0
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949436] ---[ end trace 63f12850681e2446 ]---
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949443] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000000000000008
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949445] #PF error: [normal kernel read fault]
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949447] PGD 0 P4D 0
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949449] Oops: 0000 [#1] SMP NOPTI
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949451] CPU: 0 PID: 3165 Comm: fwupd Tainted: G W OE 5.0.0-13-generic #14-Ubuntu
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949452] Hardware name: To Be Filled By O.E.M. To Be Filled By O.E.M./X370 Killer SLI, BIOS P5.10 12/17/2018
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949518] RIP: 0010:dal_ddc_close+0xd/0x30 [amdgpu]
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949520] Code: e8 38 f5 ff ff 48 8b 55 f8 65 48 33 14 25 28 00 00 00 75 02 c9 c3 e8 02 01 62 e1 66 90 0f 1f 44 00 00 55 48 89 e5 53 48 89 fb <48> 8b 7f 08 e8 0a f6 ff ff 48 8b 3b e8 02 f6 ff ff 5b 5d c3 66 2e
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949521] RSP: 0018:ffffaf5c0a93fc28 EFLAGS: 00010246
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949523] RAX: ffffffffc0e72ad0 RBX: 0000000000000000 RCX: 0000000000000000
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949524] RDX: 00000000ffffffff RSI: 0000000000004c46 RDI: 0000000000000000
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949525] RBP: ffffaf5c0a93fc30 R08: 0000000000000001 R09: 000000000000000a
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949526] R10: 0000000000000001 R11: 0000000000000000 R12: 0000000000000000
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949527] R13: ffffaf5c0a93fdc0 R14: 0000000000000000 R15: 0000000000000000
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949528] FS: 00007fc2c36a2b40(0000) GS:ffff90a9fea00000(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949530] CS: 0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 0000000080050033
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949531] CR2: 0000000000000008 CR3: 00000007ef2e8000 CR4: 00000000003406f0
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949532] Call Trace:
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949598] release_engine+0x1e/0xd0 [amdgpu]
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949659] dc_link_aux_transfer+0xfc/0x150 [amdgpu]
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949726] dm_dp_aux_transfer+0x61/0x130 [amdgpu]
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949732] drm_dp_dpcd_access+0x75/0x110 [drm_kms_helper]
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949738] drm_dp_dpcd_read+0x33/0xc0 [drm_kms_helper]
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949745] auxdev_read_iter+0xe6/0x1a0 [drm_kms_helper]
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949748] new_sync_read+0x109/0x170
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949750] __vfs_read+0x29/0x40
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949752] vfs_read+0x99/0x160
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949754] ksys_read+0x55/0xc0
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949756] __x64_sys_read+0x1a/0x20
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949758] do_syscall_64+0x5a/0x110
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949760] entry_SYSCALL_64_after_hwframe+0x44/0xa9
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949761] RIP: 0033:0x7fc2c6845d94
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949762] Code: 84 00 00 00 00 00 41 54 49 89 d4 55 48 89 f5 53 89 fb 48 83 ec 10 e8 5b fc ff ff 4c 89 e2 48 89 ee 89 df 41 89 c0 31 c0 0f 05 <48> 3d 00 f0 ff ff 77 38 44 89 c7 48 89 44 24 08 e8 97 fc ff ff 48
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949764] RSP: 002b:00007fffaecc5f40 EFLAGS: 00000246 ORIG_RAX: 0000000000000000
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949765] RAX: ffffffffffffffda RBX: 0000000000000012 RCX: 00007fc2c6845d94
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949766] RDX: 0000000000000001 RSI: 00007fffaecc5fa4 RDI: 0000000000000012
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949767] RBP: 00007fffaecc5fa4 R08: 0000000000000000 R09: 00007fc2c682cc40
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949768] R10: 0000000000000004 R11: 0000000000000246 R12: 0000000000000001
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949769] R13: 00007fffaecc6010 R14: 0000000000000001 R15: 0000558c9cf76ec0
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949771] Modules linked in: rfcomm pci_stub vboxpci(OE) vboxnetadp(OE) vboxnetflt(OE) cmac bnep vboxdrv(OE) edac_mce_amd kvm_amd kvm irqbypass nls_iso8859_1 snd_hda_codec_realtek snd_hda_codec_generic ledtrig_audio snd_hda_codec_hdmi snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec snd_usb_audio snd_hda_core snd_usbmidi_lib snd_hwdep crct10dif_pclmul snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event crc32_pclmul joydev input_leds amdgpu ghash_clmulni_intel snd_rawmidi snd_pcm chash snd_seq btusb btrtl amd_iommu_v2 btbcm gpu_sched btintel aesni_intel ttm bluetooth drm_kms_helper aes_x86_64 crypto_simd wmi_bmof mxm_wmi ecdh_generic cryptd snd_seq_device glue_helper drm snd_timer fb_sys_fops syscopyarea sysfillrect sysimgblt snd soundcore k10temp ccp mac_hid sch_fq_codel parport_pc ppdev lp parport ip_tables x_tables autofs4 mlx4_ib ib_uverbs mlx4_en ib_core uas usb_storage hid_generic usbhid hid mlx4_core ahci igb i2c_piix4 libahci devlink nvme i2c_algo_bit dca nvme_core gpio_amdpt wmi gpio_generic
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949793] CR2: 0000000000000008
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949795] ---[ end trace 63f12850681e2447 ]---
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949860] RIP: 0010:dal_ddc_close+0xd/0x30 [amdgpu]
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949862] Code: e8 38 f5 ff ff 48 8b 55 f8 65 48 33 14 25 28 00 00 00 75 02 c9 c3 e8 02 01 62 e1 66 90 0f 1f 44 00 00 55 48 89 e5 53 48 89 fb <48> 8b 7f 08 e8 0a f6 ff ff 48 8b 3b e8 02 f6 ff ff 5b 5d c3 66 2e
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949863] RSP: 0018:ffffaf5c0a93fc28 EFLAGS: 00010246
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949864] RAX: ffffffffc0e72ad0 RBX: 0000000000000000 RCX: 0000000000000000
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949865] RDX: 00000000ffffffff RSI: 0000000000004c46 RDI: 0000000000000000
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949866] RBP: ffffaf5c0a93fc30 R08: 0000000000000001 R09: 000000000000000a
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949867] R10: 0000000000000001 R11: 0000000000000000 R12: 0000000000000000
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949868] R13: ffffaf5c0a93fdc0 R14: 0000000000000000 R15: 0000000000000000
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949870] FS: 00007fc2c36a2b40(0000) GS:ffff90a9fea00000(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949871] CS: 0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 0000000080050033
May 4 09:29:45 fabian-desktop kernel: [ 69.949872] CR2: 0000000000000008 CR3: 00000007ef2e8000 CR4: 00000000003406f0
May 4 09:30:03 fabian-desktop CRON[3201]: (root) CMD ([ -x /etc/init.d/anacron ] && if [ ! -d /run/systemd/system ]; then /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d anacron start >/dev/null; fi)
May 4 09:30:10 fabian-desktop gnome-software[3147]: not GsPlugin error g-dbus-error-quark:20: Fehler beim Aufruf von StartServiceByName für org.freedesktop.fwupd: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.fwupd': timed out (service_start_timeout=25000ms)