[Sammelthread] Double Capacity DIMM DDR4 (DC DIMM)

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Double Capacity DIMM

Techpowerup schrieb:
Motherboard major ASUS designed its own non-JEDEC UDIMM standard, called "Double Capacity DIMM" or DC DIMM, with the likes of G.Skill and Zadak designing the first models. The utility of these modules is to max out the CPU memory controller's limit despite having fewer memory slots on the motherboard. Possible use-cases include LGA1151 mini-ITX motherboards with just one slot per memory channel (2 slots in all), or certain LGA2066 boards with just four slots (one slot per channel).
PC-MAX schrieb:
Um [...] eine noch höhere RAM-Ausstattung zu ermöglichen, hat sich Asus mit einigen Partnern zusammengetan und den "Double Capacity DIMM", respektive den "DC DIMM" ins Leben gerufen. Hierbei handelt es sich um eine vom JEDEC-Standard abweichende Lösung, womit die Kapazität auf jedem RAM-Modul erweitert wird.

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G.SKILL

G.Skill präsentiert Double Capacity DDR4 und DDR4-4800 für Z390 - Hardwareluxx

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G.SKILL schrieb:
Trident Z RGB DC series memory kits is only supported on the three latest ASUS Z390 chipset motherboards at launch:

  • ASUS ROG Z390 MAXIMUS XI APEX
  • ASUS ROG Maximus XI Gene
  • ASUS ROG STRIX Z390-I GAMING

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Zadak511

Produktseite: SHIELD DC RGB DDR4 32GB 3600MHZ SINGLE STICK | ZADAK
Press Release: SHIELD Double Capacity DDR4 32GB 3600MHz Single Stick | ZADAK
SHIELD Double Capacity DDR4 32GB 3600MHz Single Stick - New Darling of ASUS ROG Z390 Motherboards

9 Oct 2018 – ZADAK announces the very first double capacity DDR4 featuring personalized AURA2 RGB lighting which was built ahead of many competitors, the SHIELD DC(Double Capacity) DDR4. Co-developed with ASUS ROG team, it amazingly supports small form factor motherboards of Intel Z390 including ROG MAXIMUS XI APEX, MAXIMUS XI GENE, and ROG STRIX Z390-I Gaming. With the whole new architecture, it achieves not only double capacity of 32GB for single slot, but also high frequency of 3600MHz with impressive stability. Such a widely praised high-end memory module in the PC world comes along once in a lifetime.

Double Capacity Double Enjoyment
In 2018 ZADAK takes the biggest leap since the original DDR4. SHIELD DC DDR4 comes with double capacity of 32GB for one single stick. The IC dies for SHIELD DC DDR4 were meticulously screened that one IC was chosen out of 10 thousand ICs. ZADAK adopts the whole new architecture with special circuit design on PCB offering double capacity as well as incredible stability under high speed operation. The unprecedented design and functionality of the SHIELD DC DDR4 breaks the limits of inadequate memory on the two-slot platforms. For content creators, 3A gamers, and those gamers who prefer a compact PC for space-saving, ZADAK SHIELD DC DDR4 gives you the double capacity, double speed, and double enjoyment,

High Frequency with Remarkable Stability
AURA2 Synchronization, Perfect RGB lighting
The SHIELD DC DDR4 fully supports the latest ASUS ROG Z390 motherboards. It starts at a clock speed of 3000MHz, going up to 3200MHz at a voltage of 1.35V with CL14-14-14-34 and 3600MHz. It comes with single channel packaging as well as kit of dual-channel one with the highest capacity of 64GB(32GBX2). The RGB lighting of SHIELD DC DDR4 is synchronized with ROG AURA2 so users can regulate the preferable colors and manage the LED flashing patterns.

The Look and Design Embody the Exquisite Workmanship
Instead of light diffuser, ZADAK SHIELD DC DDR4 employs the specially-designed chamfer inside the aluminum top bar presenting perfect RGB lighting effect. The metal machining craftsmanship and thicker aluminum material of 1.5mm give multi-layer design on the heat spreader.

Small form factor with only two-slot motherboard had a problem with inadequate memory. The ZADAK team is comfortably over those limits. SHIELD DC DDR4 is a groundbreaking product. For the enthusiast users and gamers who want to get the maximum capacity and high speed of memory module in their system while using motherboards with two slots only now will have the option of opting for ZADAK SHIELD DC DDR4. It will be on the market in late October with the MSRP USD$799/899/999 for 3000/3200/3600MHz.

ZADAK
ZADAK is a high-end custom water-cooled PC brand founded by a group of people of designers, modders, and engineers in the autumn of 2015. Original design, craftsmanship, and beyond the boundary are the core values of ZADAK. We want to create a custom water-cooled computer which is sophisticated and elegant, just like an artwork, an enjoyment. We also want to create something that is easy for you to assemble your own fantasy PC.

After years of development, tons of experiments and prototypes, ZADAK finally settles on a design that would be the key of why we are able to make the water-cooled computer so compact. ZADAK hopes that you will get as much fun out of building your own fantasy PC as we do.

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  • Double Capacity of 32GB for Single Slot
  • High Frequency of 3600MHz With High Stability
  • AURA2 Synchronization, Perfect RGB Lighting
  • Amazly Compatible With Intel Z390 Platforms
  • The design Shows the Exquisite Workmanship
  • Perfect For Content Creators, 3A Gamers
SHIELD DC(Double Capacity) DDR4, co-developed with ASUS ROG team, it amazingly supports small form factor motherboards of Intel Z390 including ROG MAXIMUS XI APEX, MAXIMUS XI GENE, and ROG STRIX Z390-I Gaming. With the whole new architecture, it achieves not only double capacity of 32GB for single slot, but also high frequency of 3600MHz with impressive stability. Such a widely praised high-end memory module in the PC world comes along once in a lifetime.
 
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Das ist mal ein wirklich interessantes Design, allerdings gibt es bei der Höhe sicher Probleme mit manchen Kühlern in SFF-Systemen. Gibt es eigentlich noch High-Density-Module für DDR4?
 
Gibt es eigentlich noch High-Density-Module für DDR4?
Je nachdem was du unter High Density in dem Zusammenhang verstehst, gibt es Module welche als High Density für den Server und Embedded-Bereich beworben werden.

DC DIMM könnten allerdings die Entsprechung dazu für DDR4 werden: [Sammelthread] High Density DDR3 Memory. Also eine Alternative um 32GB Module aus den vergleichsweise günstigen verfügbaren 8Gbit ICs, statt den angekündigten und anfangs vermutlich sehr teuren 16Gbit ICs herzustellen.


Edit: DDR4-RAM: Double-Capacity-UDIMMs bieten doppelte Kapazität dank zweifacher Höhe - Hardwareluxx
 
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Größenvergleich mit regulären Trident Z (RGB):

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Quelle: AnandTech
 
Zadak Produktseite ist online: SHIELD DC RGB DDR4 32GB 3600MHZ SINGLE STICK | ZADAK
  • Double Capacity of 32GB for Single Slot
  • High Frequency of 3600MHz With High Stability
  • AURA2 Synchronization, Perfect RGB Lighting
  • Amazly Compatible With Intel Z390 Platforms
  • The design Shows the Exquisite Workmanship
  • Perfect For Content Creators, 3A Gamers
SHIELD DC(Double Capacity) DDR4, co-developed with ASUS ROG team, it amazingly supports small form factor motherboards of Intel Z390 including ROG MAXIMUS XI APEX, MAXIMUS XI GENE, and ROG STRIX Z390-I Gaming. With the whole new architecture, it achieves not only double capacity of 32GB for single slot, but also high frequency of 3600MHz with impressive stability. Such a widely praised high-end memory module in the PC world comes along once in a lifetime.

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Gibt es eigentlich schon Info's darüber, wann man mit dem Modulen von G.Skill rechnen kann?
Bislang ist davon im Handel ja nix zu sehen. Leider...
 
Ich hatte schon mal nachgefragt, als ich den Sammelthread für das Gene erstellt habe. Mir wurde gesagt, es gäbe noch keinen Termin. Eigentlich kann es aber nicht mehr lange dauern, denn sie sollten ja noch vor den 16Gbit ICs den Retail Markt erreichen. Sonst wäre der ohnehin schon begrenzte Nutzen nur noch sehr gering...
 
Also hier mal ein Review von Anandtech: Double Height DDR4: 32GB Modules from G.Skill and ZADAK Reviewed

www.anandtech.com schrieb:
As our maximum achieved overclocks show, there isn't much additional headroom available to push the dual capacity DRAM much further than the XMP 2.0 profiles already allow. Both the G.Skill and ZADAK kits allowed us to overclock up to DDR4-3500 with 16-16-16-38 at 1.5 V. Any attempt to go past DDR4-3500 would result in failed POST even with timings slackened as loose as up to CL18.

Zusammengefasst:

- B-Die ICs auf beiden Kits
- Bei 3500C16 ist Schluss, danach kein post mehr auf dem XI Gene.
 
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Auch wenn man auf einigen Bildern ein Gene sieht, getestet haben sie laut Text nur mit dem ASUS ROG Strix Z390-I Gaming. Ich hatte es heute morgen in der B-Die Liste schon gepostet. Bei ProClockers gab es auch noch ein Review von den Zadak Shield DC ZD4-SHC3200C14-64GDSD:

G.SKILL Trident Z RGB DC F4-3200C14D-64GTZDC & Zadak Shield DC ZD4-SHC3200C14-64GDSD (2x ZD4-SHC3200C14-32GCS)
-- Review mit IC Fotos & Thaiphoon Screenshot @ AnandTech

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-- Review mit IC Fotos @ ProClockers

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Würde ich wohl posten, aber erst mal müssen die Teile verfügbar werden...
 
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