[Sammelthread] Intel DDR5 RAM OC Thread

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Dear all, let me introduce my 14900KF, the most leaky CPU you've ever seen
Working on 2x 24GB @8000, will post some results soon. I hope it is doable.

 

[Veii]

Ic habe gerade das neue Revi W11 installiert. Es gibt kein iso mehr, muss zuerst original W11 installiert werden. Danach Playbook, und muss nochmal ueber Playbook Revi da rauf.

Es könnte auch das neue update sein, ich weiß nicht
Stimmt aber, ich hatte vergessen dass sie die fertigen ISO's vom Netz genommen haben.

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Hmmm,
Except using custom Powerplans (much work to design it), there may be another ASUS based option
As potential, but i can not say anything atm.
I don't work @ HQ ~ soo It's not on me. Else there may be an idea utilizing Load-awareness for scheduling or forcing CC6 suspension.
Substrate Design should support this, similar as its done on X3D.
Would also help with generally high UncoreVID.

Can you try something for me please ?
On your powerplan put lowest Idle state to 0%
And run https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vG6cHcK59aYiqvVlVHK73JpksjOyWs9z/

HWInfo to 500ms pooling, everything closed. Only visible Per-Core VID & effective clock.
Taskmanager stop service:
WinUpdate, WebAccountManager
Make a phone recording if you can.

If you want to have it cleaner, you can replicate that and/or put everything else to manual an to Disabled.

There are 3 more services that keep being auto-enabled by Windows + set to WriteProtect, which is bothersome
but cutting their wings via GroupPolicy would cause an EventViewer Spam and do the reverse effect.

Alternatively you can Google for BlackViperScript and use that utility to make a service backup plus override some of the purposely locked Services by Microsoft.
Its my daily & gaming OS. I don't use BenchOS's.

We want to have ~50 processes on Idle & past boot.
Else there is another method too.

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Dear all, let me introduce my 14900KF, the most leaky CPU you've ever seen
Working on 2x 24GB @8000, will post some results soon. I hope it is doable.

You won the lottery.
Do you have the cooling for this Chip ?

 

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You won the lottery.
Do you have the cooling for this Chip ?. Not at all, It's more complicated. The PC is in the bedroom, and the vents are set to low noise, CPU performance is not that important.

Not at all. It's more complicated. The PC is in the bedroom, and the vents are set to low noise, CPU performance is not that important.
CPU is air cooled by D15S, with single 140mm.
RAM is fanless. It means tREFI 32767 etc.

 

[Veii]

Not at all. It's more complicated. The PC is in the bedroom, and the vents are set to low noise, CPU performance is not that important.
CPU is air cooled by D15S, with single 140mm.

You can replicate our last posts V/F curve ~ and set Bios SVID preset to "trained"
ICCMAX at 400A, powerlimit maxed.

CPU will throttle by itself, no worries.
Once y-cruncher 90min stable (make it all tests) , you can limit PL1 to your target cooler/psu limit
And PL2 (short/burst powerlimit) to ~12W higher.

Around 280A ICCMAX for sub 150W.
Dont set ICCMAX before you verify it is able to sustain and hold high temps.
CPU has to be capable to self throttle and sustain 105° (95 per core)

EDIT:
Do NOT use any fixed core/cache/ring voltage nor fixed clock
~ if you care about the life of your CPU.

 

[robonz]

Spaßhalber arbeite ich an:

12900K (8P), P52/R45 @1.22V, AVX512 an
und 2x16GB 8000C34

Habe das System zwischendruch kurz genutzt, kann sein, dass die Bitrates deswegen ein bisschen off sind...

Die RTLs trainieren noch nicht richtig

 

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You can replicate our last posts V/F curve ~ and set Bios SVID preset to "trained"
ICCMAX at 400A, powerlimit maxed.

CPU will throttle by itself, no worries.
Once y-cruncher 90min stable (make it all tests) , you can limit PL1 to your target cooler/psu limit
And PL2 (short/burst powerlimit) to ~12W higher.

Around 280A ICCMAX for sub 150W.
Dont set ICCMAX before you verify it is able to sustain and hold high temps.
CPU has to be capable to self throttle and sustain 105° (95 per core)

EDIT:
Do NOT use any fixed core/cache/ring voltage nor fixed clock
~ if you care about the life of your CPU.

Thanks a lot. This is with power Watt unlimited, capped 400A. I guess I can limit PL1 power watts to maybe 150W and PL2 to 162W and 280A cap then. How long I should set the time in seconds, it´s the question. And I will start with TM5 + VST/VT3. Let the fun begin

 

[Veii]

Thanks a lot. This is with power Watt unlimited, capped 400A. I guess I can limit PL1 power watts to maybe 150W and PL2 to 162W and 280A cap then. How long I should set the time in seconds, it´s the question. And I will start with TM5 + VST/VT3. Let the fun begin

You did put in the V/F curve ?

Well result for sure says, CPU is not defective and needs no RMA.
Fortunately , or so ~ haha.
It would be a lovely CPU under LN2. But definitely not for ambient.

I would like to see the same torture test with the curve.
I expect it to be also stable ~ because it will keep staying ICCMAX (400A) limited, although you would first thermal throttle naturally.
But you have to check on the worst worst case scenario.

If it doesnt know how to throttle, then something is not ok with it.
Good to see memOC was easy too.
Makes it now even easier for you to blame "lack of voltage" for memOC issues, instead of falling into rabbit.hole of variables.

Nice to see
Let y-cruncher do y-cruncher things. It knows how to configure itself.
For memOC stability, after you are done with the CPU section ~ you want to only select VST+VT3.
The alternation of both causes some unhappy scenario (Backend / Bufferqueue) ~ and bellow 90min the chance to crash is very high.

For 8200MT/s
If you don't touch VDDQ_CPU & VDDQ_MEM , nor SA anymore
You'd need est. 1.43-1.44 MC (VDD[2]_CPU). Keep it bellow VDD_MEM.
Else if you scale VDD_MEM, scale both VDD & VDDQ on the same way. And the same amount on VDDQ_CPU (TX).

I think 155W PL2, 140W PL1 with ICCMAX 280A, sounds reasonable.
Before you create any power limiter throttle scenario which can create instability
~ be sure to sort out the CPU side first

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Ah,
Like ~ its fully fully ok for cores to reach 95°. We (many) overpanic~
But you dont really want to have that thing every time happening in games. Not because its unsafe;
It will mess with the frametime and especially with CPU to GPU Synchronisation ~ ReBAR Mode.

Soo as long as games stay near the 90 mark, its fully ok.
No change in lifetime ~ all 14th gen are very-high thermal binned. 13900KS was too.
Other SKUs have an older Throttle Algo.

Just please keep the CPU staying dynamic.
Don't fix clock or cores-section voltage.
Time is of essence.
Let it function how intel designed it and work with the algo. Not against it.

 

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You did put in the V/F curve ?

Well result for sure says, CPU is not defective and needs no RMA.
Fortunately , or so ~ haha.
It would be a lovely CPU under LN2. But definitely not for ambient.

I would like to see the same torture test with the curve.
I expect it to be also stable ~ because it will keep staying ICCMAX (400A) limited, although you would first thermal throttle naturally.
But you have to check on the worst worst case scenario.

If it doesnt know how to throttle, then something is not ok with it.
Good to see memOC was easy too.
Makes it now even easier for you to blame "lack of voltage" for memOC issues, instead of falling into rabbit.hole of variables.

Nice to see (and)
Let y-cruncher do y-cruncher things. It knows how to configure itself.
For memOC stability, after you are done with the CPU section ~ you want to only select VST+VT3.
The alternation of both causes some unhappy scenario and bellow 90min the chance to crash is very high.

For 8200MT/s
If you don't touch VDDQ_CPU & VDDQ_MEM , nor SA anymore
You'd need est. 1.43-1.44 MC (VDD[2]_CPU). Keep it bellow VDD_MEM.
Else if you scale VDD_MEM, scale both VDD & VDDQ on the same way. And the same amount on VDDQ_CPU (TX).

I think 155W PL2, 140W PL1 with ICCMAX 280A, sounds reasonable.
Before you create any power limiter throttle scenario which can create instability
~ be sure to sort out the CPU side first

Thank you a lot, much appreciated! I did not modify the V/F curve at all, I passed that CPU part. About CPU I did only setting ASUS MultiCore Enhancement to Enable, and set CPU Core/Cache Current Limit Max. to the 400A.
Now I will set the 155W PL2, 140W PL1 with ICCMAX 280A as you recommended.
And I will run the memory tests. I will stay at 8000 first. If stable, I will try the 8200.
I am feared to touch the CPU more especially the V/F settings, I've never done anything like this and I'm afraid I'll screw it up.

 

[Veii]

Now I will set the 155W PL2, 140W PL1 with ICCMAX 280A as you recommended.

Set the curve before that
And torture it.

We wanted that initially.
Later once that passes, you can powerlimit it
Powerlimiting it now, may be a waste ~ because you dont know if curve fits your sample at all.

EDIT:
Curve and SVID preset to "trained"
IA_AC Loadline to 0.6 for now.
all CEP's to disabled. No need for CEP when user is the current protection. Curve is made to not reach ICCMAX.

If that fails, increase IA_AC to lets say 0.8
Thats more than plenty. Stock is 1.1ohm

 

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Set the curve before that
And torture it.

We wanted that initially.
Later once that passes, you can powerlimit it
Powerlimiting it now, may be a waste ~ because you dont know if curve fits your sample at all.

EDIT:
Curve and SVID preset to "trained"
IA_AC Loadline to 0.6 for now.
all CEP's to disabled. No need for CEP when user is the current protection. Curve is made to not reach ICCMAX.

If that fails, increase IA_AC to lets say 0.8
Thats more than plenty. Stock is 1.1ohm

Ok, this is very far beyond my experience, but I will try.
IA_AC Loadline is set to 0.6
IA CEP and SA CEP to disabled.
CPU Load-line Calibration is still Auto (says level 3), is it OK?
I know how to change the V(F curve, but I have no idea what values I should put there.

 

[perlibu]

Was macht eig das global svid dings?

 

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Reading old posts, but I am still lost. This is what I get if I use the Tool and "generate" curve.

 

[zebra_hun]

Can you try something for me please ?
On your powerplan put lowest Idle state to 0%
And run https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vG6cHcK59aYiqvVlVHK73JpksjOyWs9z/

HWInfo to 500ms pooling, everything closed. Only visible Per-Core VID & effective clock.
Taskmanager stop service:
WinUpdate, WebAccountManager
Make a phone recording if you can.

Hi!

Leider am Nachmittag Revi OS 11 sofot formatted, und das original MS W11 installiert. Aber Revi W10 ist total gleiche. Mit normal Balanced PP die P Kerne schlafen dort auch. Nicht immer. Nur beim Cb R23 und TM5. Es gibt mehr bestimmt, aber ich kenne nur die zwei.
Ich habe zwei kurz Video gemacht, aber sorry, nich alles wie du es mir geschrieben hast.
Am Abend bin ich nach Hause gekommen, so viele Zeit hatte ich kein.

Eine ueber W10 Revi, Park Control zuerueck auf original (auto) Einstellungen. Captured mit NvExp., deswegen ohne Hwinfo ein Teil, weil aufnahme stoert alles.
Aber doch nicht schlegt, es zeigt gut, dass die Kerne einzeln arbeiten.
Danach umgeschaltet auf "Prefer P Kerne" und ohne Hetero (kein Kerne schlaeft) und nochmal. Zwischen einen Cb run, wo wir sehen koennen, die P Kerne schlaefen.
Diese Booster arbeitet einmal frei.

Das ist W10 Revi OS


Auf neue W11 ist noch fast nichts installiert, ueber Handy konnte ich aufnahme machen. Das ist total original W11, nicht debloated, nur paar Zache uninstalled. (Spotify, Cortana, Weather usw.)
Auch Balanced, min cpu 0%, max 100%, aber Background Process alle laufen. Deswegen sorry, wegen Zeit habe ich es so gemacht.

Boost, zehr wichtig.
W10 boosted 59x mit manipuliert Revi OS. Schwer zu zeigen, Hwinfo zeigt katastrophe.
Noch etwas. Hwinfo egal ob W10 oder 11, immer zwei Rund zeigt richtig, dann stopped sich es richtig zeigen.

W11 boosted 6060MHz effective, Core Clock 6100MHz. Dort wir koennen besser sehen auf effective Clock.

W11 original boost

Ganz frisch installation, alle Klump Software uninstalled manuel von Apps, 135 Backgroundprocess laufen immernoch. Ich werde es von deinem Bilder noch repaieren. Oder einen Debloater nutzen.
Ich hoffe, dass du etwas finden kannst, die du sehen wolltest

Ich wollte unbedigt einen guten OS installieren fuer RAM OC, vielleich custom Power Plans machen Fehler bei mir. Bench OS brauche ich auch nicht. Nur ein gute, stabil 24/7 Einsellung.
8000 wird die letzte profil, wenn gehts... Wenn nicht, dann 7600 bleibt, das ist auch super.

Thx,
mfG zeb

 

[Veii]

Reading old posts, but I am still lost. This is what I get if I use the Tool and "generate" curve.

https://www.hardwareluxx.de/communi...-ram-oc-thread.1306827/page-422#post-30236889
Copy his values and put into the Bios.
Then change SVID mode to trained.

Instead of loading Intel's Presets.

If there is instability, increase IA AC_LL slightly higher.
There shouldn't be any.

Verify with multiple types of loads
Cinebench R20/23, Y-cruncher SFT+VST+VT3 (or just all tests, running duration is more important to create noise)
Geekbench , Games

And if it behaves fine till tomorrow and no random freezes too
Then ICCMAX it lower and put the powerlimits in for more efficiency on your cooling solution.
Else would be fully fine just with ICCMAX, but air coolers have less soaking headroom vs custom loops.

 

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Hi @Veii
Sorry for the late reaction.

I uploaded the CMO and the TXT as you asked me before: DROPBOX

I also set the CTL0 value you suggested, boots and works fine, I don't see difference in benches.

Here is the fine-tuned curve:

Made some measurements with my new curve on 8400C36 profile.

 

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https://www.hardwareluxx.de/communi...-ram-oc-thread.1306827/page-422#post-30236889
Copy his values and put into the Bios.
Then change SVID mode to trained.
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Instead of loading Intel's Presets.

If there is instability, increase IA AC_LL slightly higher.
There shouldn't be any.

Verify with multiple types of loads
Cinebench R20/23, Y-cruncher SFT+VST+VT3 (or just all tests, running duration is more important to create noise)
Geekbench , Games

And if it behaves fine till tomorrow and no random freezes too
Then ICCMAX it lower and put the powerlimits in for more efficiency on your cooling solution.
Else would be fully fine just with ICCMAX, but air coolers have less soaking headroom vs custom loops.

Not going too well. Random freezes right when R23 starts, same Geekbench Y-Cruncher 2.5b. When increased IA_AC Loadline from 0.6 to 0.8, still the same. Should I go higher, or change something else please?

 

[Veii]

When increased IA_AC Loadline from 0.6 to 0.8, still the same. Should I go higher, or change something else please?

Hmmm
Just to verify, sorry if i ask the 3rd time the same question

ICCMAX was 400A
No set voltage on ring,
No set voltage on e-cores
No set voltage on L2
^ no voltage offsets either
No usage of PLLs
CEP off and SVID Preset to Trained
No modification in Loadline's Menu
No BLCK
Ringdownbin remains on Auto
No fixed clock or target clock
TVB was not higher than +1
No usage of processorlasso

Everything correct ?

May you upload the visual curve by Shamino's [ASUS] Tool.exe ?
On .6 IA_AC and .8 IA_AC ~ please.

I need to separate memOC issues by lack voltage for IMC
// VDD2_CPU (MC Link) is not IMC voltage. IMC voltage is auto
from
Peak boost idle freezes
from
Ring and lower clock ramp-up issues (curve inconsistency)
// Ring and Core curve goes hand in hand

 

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Hmmm
Just to verify, sorry if i ask the 3rd time the same question

ICCMAX was 400A
No set voltage on ring,
No set voltage on e-cores
No set voltage on L2
^ no voltage offsets either
No usage of PLLs
CEP off and SVID Preset to Trained
No modification in Loadline's Menu
No BLCK
Ringdownbin remains on Auto
No fixed clock or target clock
TVB was not higher than +1
No usage of processorlasso

Everything correct ?

May you upload the visual curve by Shamino's [ASUS] Tool.exe ?
On .6 IA_AC and .8 IA_AC ~ please.

I need to separate memOC issues by lack voltage for IMC
// VDD2_CPU (MC Link) is not IMC voltage. IMC voltage is auto
from
Peak boost idle freezes
from
Ring and lower clock ramp-up issues (curve inconsistency)
// Ring and Core curve goes hand in hand

Yes, everything is correct. For sure I am as well uploading BIOS with 0.6 IA_AC in text form if you may check if I did a mistake.
0.6 IA_AC = Cinebench R23 crash right at the start and PC restarts. Y-Cruncher 0.8.2 2.5b restarts PC right at the start.
0.8 IA_AC = Cinebench R23 lasts usually few seconds, and then PC froze. Y-Cruncher 0.8.2 2.5b works fine and gives the best result I ever had.
Thank you

 

[Veii]

Yes, everything is correct. For sure I am as well uploading BIOS with 0.6 IA_AC in text form if you may check if I did a mistake.
0.6 IA_AC = Cinebench R23 crash right at the start and PC restarts. Y-Cruncher 0.8.2 2.5b restarts PC right at the start.
0.8 IA_AC = Cinebench R23 lasts usually few seconds, and then PC froze. Y-Cruncher 0.8.2 2.5b works fine and gives the best result I ever had.
Thank you

Interesting.
Let me respond till tonight.

4.7 range requests near 1020-1030mV
While for both of the guys its near 1070-1100mV

Go with 1ohm IA
or auto both.
Input LLC 3 and play with core loadline.

Ill inspect it later and check if we can figure something out that works for all.
Had purposely strong droops but your CPU seems was quite efficient on the mid-high side.
Just caused it to struggle due to too strong droop. And very likely didnt scale far on clock, soo peaks are extreme.

Curve by itself is ok i feel, just shift it up with AC_LL.
And then see what loadline is ok for your sample.
Had to be ok with LLC3 but your fused curve seems to be a bit different vs both of the samples.

EDIT:
Alternatively check if CPU_AUX 1.8v rail, to 1.9v will do the trick.
But we may need another full redesign. I want it tho to be universal & users can then scale it up / down with AC_LL.

EDIT2:
Verify perf scaling on those 5 applications

Curve is for 12th gen, don't copy that.
Vout is diesense , VID is current VID, Curve is fused/trained curve points.
All those 3 values can be tracked with tool.exe . HWInfo needs to stay off, when you use Tool.exe
HWMonitor doesn't bother , HWInfo does.
Don't focus on effective clock. It literally means zero in terms of perf.

 

[zebra_hun]

Yes, everything is correct. For sure I am as well uploading BIOS with 0.6 IA_AC in text form if you may check if I did a mistake.
0.6 IA_AC = Cinebench R23 crash right at the start and PC restarts. Y-Cruncher 0.8.2 2.5b restarts PC right at the start.
0.8 IA_AC = Cinebench R23 lasts usually few seconds, and then PC froze. Y-Cruncher 0.8.2 2.5b works fine and gives the best result I ever had.
Thank you

Hello!

I have a similar weak cpu. If it helps, I'll share my complete BIOS settings. Please do not look at the memory section, it is not completely finished. I don't think you care about that.
I've already done this whole torture with this incredibly weak cpu.
I think you only need to change it a minimum, and only with AC LL.
I used the LLC5 setting for testing here, but you can change it back to LLC4, then of course the AC LL is higher.
I can imagine that it will be too hot for you, since your cooling is weaker.
Then use "Ratio" 54-57 under "Core Usage".
Ring (Cache) 47 or 48.

If this helps, use it, if not, consider these few sentences irrelevant.
I share it with the intention of helping, I don't want to be clever.

Spoiler: BIOS

[2024/01/16 15:13:53]
Ai Overclock Tuner [Auto]
Intel(R) Adaptive Boost Technology [Auto]
ASUS MultiCore Enhancement [Enabled – Remove All limits (90°C)]
SVID Behavior [Trained]
BCLK Frequency : DRAM Frequency Ratio [100:100]
Memory Controller : DRAM Frequency Ratio [1:2]
DRAM Frequency [DDR5-8000MHz]
Performance Core Ratio [By Core Usage]
1-Core Ratio Limit [58]
2-Core Ratio Limit [58]
3-Core Ratio Limit [57]
4-Core Ratio Limit [57]
5-Core Ratio Limit [56]
6-Core Ratio Limit [56]
7-Core Ratio Limit [55]
8-Core Ratio Limit [55]
Performance Core0 Specific Ratio Limit [Auto]
Performance Core0 specific Voltage [Auto]
Performance Core1 Specific Ratio Limit [Auto]
Performance Core1 specific Voltage [Auto]
*Performance Core2 Specific Ratio Limit [Auto]
Performance Core2 specific Voltage [Auto]
*Performance Core3 Specific Ratio Limit [Auto]
Performance Core3 specific Voltage [Auto]
Performance Core4 Specific Ratio Limit [Auto]
Performance Core4 specific Voltage [Auto]
Performance Core5 Specific Ratio Limit [Auto]
Performance Core5 specific Voltage [Auto]
Performance Core6 Specific Ratio Limit [Auto]
Performance Core6 specific Voltage [Auto]
Performance Core7 Specific Ratio Limit [Auto]
Performance Core7 specific Voltage [Auto]
Efficient Core Ratio [By Core Usage]
Efficient Turbo Ratio Limit 1 [44]
Efficient Turbo Ratio Cores 1 [Auto]
Efficient Core Group0 Specific Ratio Limit [Auto]
Efficient Core Group0 specific Voltage [Auto]
Efficient Core Group1 Specific Ratio Limit [Auto]
Efficient Core Group1 specific Voltage [Auto]
Efficient Core Group2 Specific Ratio Limit [Auto]
Efficient Core Group2 specific Voltage [Auto]
Efficient Core Group3 Specific Ratio Limit [Auto]
Efficient Core Group3 specific Voltage [Auto]
AVX2 [Auto]
AVX2 Ratio Offset to per-core Ratio Limit [Auto]
AVX2 Voltage Guardband Scale Factor [Auto]
Maximus Tweak [Mode 2]
DRAM CAS# Latency [36]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay Read [46]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay Write [46]
DRAM RAS# PRE Time [46]
DRAM RAS# ACT Time [58]
DRAM Command Rate [2N]
DRAM RAS# to RAS# Delay L [12]
DRAM RAS# to RAS# Delay S [8]
DRAM REF Cycle Time 2 [480]
DRAM REF Cycle Time Same Bank [Auto]
DRAM Refresh Interval [131071]
DRAM WRITE Recovery Time [24]
DRAM READ to PRE Time [12]
DRAM FOUR ACT WIN Time [32]
DRAM WRITE to READ Delay L [24]
DRAM WRITE to READ Delay S [8]
DRAM CKE Minimum Pulse Width [Auto]
DRAM Write Latency [34]
Ctl0 dqvrefup [Auto]
Ctl0 dqvrefdn [Auto]
Ctl0 dqodtvrefup [Auto]
Ctl0 dqodtvrefdn [Auto]
Ctl1 cmdvrefup [Auto]
Ctl1 ctlvrefup [Auto]
Ctl1 clkvrefup [Auto]
Ctl1 ckecsvrefup [Auto]
Ctl2 cmdvrefdn [Auto]
Ctl2 ctlvrefdn [Auto]
Ctl2 clkvrefdn [Auto]
Read Equalization RxEq Start Sign [-]
Read Equalization RxEq Start [Auto]
Read Equalization RxEq Stop Sign [-]
Read Equalization RxEq Stop [Auto]
ODT_READ_DURATION [Auto]
ODT_READ_DELAY [Auto]
ODT_WRITE_DURATION [Auto]
ODT_WRITE_DELAY [Auto]
DQ RTT WR [Auto]
DQ RTT NOM RD [Auto]
DQ RTT NOM WR [Auto]
DQ RTT PARK [Auto]
DQ RTT PARK DQS [Auto]
GroupA CA ODT [Auto]
GroupA CS ODT [Auto]
GroupA CK ODT [Auto]
GroupB CA ODT [Auto]
GroupB CS ODT [Auto]
GroupB CK ODT [Auto]
Pull-up Output Driver Impedance [Auto]
Pull-Down Output Driver Impedance [Auto]
DQ RTT WR [Auto]
DQ RTT NOM RD [Auto]
DQ RTT NOM WR [Auto]
DQ RTT PARK [Auto]
DQ RTT PARK DQS [Auto]
GroupA CA ODT [Auto]
GroupA CS ODT [Auto]
GroupA CK ODT [Auto]
GroupB CA ODT [Auto]
GroupB CS ODT [Auto]
GroupB CK ODT [Auto]
Pull-up Output Driver Impedance [Auto]
Pull-Down Output Driver Impedance [Auto]
Round Trip Latency Init Value MC0 CHA [Auto]
Round Trip Latency Max Value MC0 CHA [Auto]
Round Trip Latency Offset Value Mode Sign MC0 CHA [-]
Round Trip Latency Offset Value MC0 CHA [Auto]
Round Trip Latency Init Value MC0 CHB [Auto]
Round Trip Latency Max Value MC0 CHB [Auto]
Round Trip Latency Offset Value Mode Sign MC0 CHB [-]
Round Trip Latency Offset Value MC0 CHB [Auto]
Round Trip Latency Init Value MC1 CHA [Auto]
Round Trip Latency Max Value MC1 CHA [Auto]
Round Trip Latency Offset Value Mode Sign MC1 CHA [-]
Round Trip Latency Offset Value MC1 CHA [Auto]
Round Trip Latency Init Value MC1 CHB [Auto]
Round Trip Latency Max Value MC1 CHB [Auto]
Round Trip Latency Offset Value Mode Sign MC1 CHB [-]
Round Trip Latency Offset Value MC1 CHB [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHA R0 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHA R1 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHA R2 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHA R3 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHA R4 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHA R5 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHA R6 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHA R7 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHB R0 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHB R1 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHB R2 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHB R3 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHB R4 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHB R5 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHB R6 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC0 CHB R7 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHA R0 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHA R1 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHA R2 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHA R3 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHA R4 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHA R5 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHA R6 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHA R7 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHB R0 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHB R1 [Auto]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHB R2 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHB R3 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHB R4 [0]
Round Trip Latency MC1 CHB R5 [0]
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[Abtrünnig]

Interesting.
Let me respond till tonight.

4.7 range requests near 1020-1030mV
While for both of the guys its near 1070-1100mV

Go with 1ohm IA
or auto both.
Input LLC 3 and play with core loadline.

Ill inspect it later and check if we can figure something out that works for all.
Had purposely strong droops but your CPU seems was quite efficient on the mid-high side.
Just caused it to struggle due to too strong droop. And very likely didnt scale far on clock, soo peaks are extreme.

Curve by itself is ok i feel, just shift it up with AC_LL.
And then see what loadline is ok for your sample.
Had to be ok with LLC3 but your fused curve seems to be a bit different vs both of the samples.

EDIT:
Alternatively check if CPU_AUX 1.8v rail, to 1.9v will do the trick.
But we may need another full redesign. I want it tho to be universal & users can then scale it up / down with AC_LL.

EDIT2:
Verify perf scaling on those 5 applications
Anhang anzeigen 960194
Curve is for 12th gen, don't copy that.
Vout is diesense , VID is current VID, Curve is fused/trained curve points.
All those 3 values can be tracked with tool.exe . HWInfo needs to stay off, when you use Tool.exe
HWMonitor doesn't bother , HWInfo does.
Don't focus on effective clock. It literally means zero in terms of perf.

Can´t make it works, every combination is unstable. CPU_AUX to 1.9V did not help as well.

 

[Veii]

Can´t make it works, every combination is unstable. CPU_AUX to 1.9V did not help as well.

Soo memOC is unstable then.
You played with ~80mV jumps in the curve.
There should have been some progress.

Original Curve , 7800MT/s or even 7600MT/s
Drop down and verify cores are behaving
Disable VDDQ Trianing while you figure out the actually correct voltages for memOC

Its not IMC not receiving enough from cores
Because the problem shouldve been fixed.
With you increasing voltage by such big margins
Youll figure it out

 

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Soo memOC is unstable then.
You played with ~80mV jumps in the curve.
There should have been some progress.

Original Curve , 7800MT/s or even 7600MT/s
Drop down and verify cores are behaving
Disable VDDQ Trianing while you figure out the actually correct voltages for memOC

Its not IMC not receiving enough from cores
Because the problem shouldve been fixed.
With you increasing voltage by such big margins
Youll figure it out

So I did one more "experiment". All memory settings and frequency on auto, so memory run 5600 CL46. CPU settings, V/F settings etc all is exactly as you said. R23 is still unstable.
And another experiment, leaved memory setting at 8000 unchanged, but with SVID auto, load lines auto and V/F auto. The system is rock stable.
I tried also V/F table and tips provided by @zebra_hun (thank you, much appreciated), but it did not help.

So, the system is fully stable with the 8000 memory OC and with following settings:
ICCMAX was 400A
No set voltage on ring,
No set voltage on e-cores
No set voltage on L2
^ no voltage offsets either
No usage of PLLs
CEP off and SVID Preset to AUTO
No modification in Loadline's Menu
No BLCK
Ringdownbin remains on Auto
No fixed clock or target clock
TVB was not higher than +1
No usage of processorlasso
+ non modified V/F.

This leads me to conclusion, unstability can´t be because of bad memory overclocking.
Unstability always come only when I change the V/F curve and set SVID to Trained.

Beitrag automatisch zusammengeführt: 16.01.2024

This is from my overnight test, still the same 8000 mem OC, but 155W PL2, 140W PL1 with ICCMAX 280A as you recommended me. Works great tbh. Again - SVID is AUTO and unchanged V/F curve.

 

[Veii]

This leads me to conclusion, unstability can´t be because of bad memory overclocking.
Unstability always come only when I change the V/F curve and set SVID to Trained.

This is fact, unfortunately
Why it happens, i am not sure.

Sadly i depend on you here to figure it out.
Because "causes issues" i know is a report but does not help. Over remote especially less.

We would need 5 careful attempts to figure it out and without you attempting further, i can not guide.
May you try to only lower IA_AC and see which point you reach till y-cruncher SFT crashes. So also geekbench and cinebench.

That is with high powerlimits and 400A ICCMAX.
If you keep reaching PL4, you can not count on reaching high memOC.

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Can you try to figure out, if any of the SVID Presets run for you ?

 

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This is fact, unfortunately
Why it happens, i am not sure.

Sadly i depend on you here to figure it out.
Because "causes issues" i know is a report but does not help. Over remote especially less.

We would need 5 careful attempts to figure it out and without you attempting further, i can not guide.
May you try to only lower IA_AC and see which point you reach till y-cruncher SFT crashes. So also geekbench and cinebench.

That is with high powerlimits and 400A ICCMAX.
If you keep reaching PL4, you can not count on reaching high memOC.

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Can you try to figure out, if any of the SVID Presets run for you ?

Yes, I won't give up. I'll do everything I can. I wonder why it is the way it is. Thank you.

 

[Vhypur]

dropped in to say thanks for all of the in general info on ddr5 @Veii been going through pages and pages saving any good info I can find

 

[AndreasP1981]

7800 Scheint nun auch zu klappen:

 

[Veii]

7800 Scheint nun auch zu klappen:
Anhang anzeigen 960352Anhang anzeigen 960355

Vieel zu kurzer Test um jegliche Stabilität auszumachen
Aber es sieht schon gut aus.

Wenn du VDDQ_MEM um 60mV droppst (von 1515 auf 1430),
dann kann VDDQ_CPU (TX) von 1.370 auf 1.320 runter
Bzw sogar 1.280mV

 

[AndreasP1981]

Vieel zu kurzer Test um jegliche Stabilität auszumachen
Aber es sieht schon gut aus.

Wenn du VDDQ_MEM um 60mV droppst (von 1515 auf 1430),
dann kann VDDQ_CPU (TX) von 1.370 auf 1.320 runter
Bzw sogar 1.280mV

Danke, werde ich definitiv versuchen.
90min war das für den VST/VT3 oder? (das könnte ich dann Morgen nach der Arbeit durchlaufen lassen)

 

[Veii]

90min war das für den VST/VT3 oder? (das könnte ich dann Morgen nach der Arbeit durchlaufen lassen)

VST+VT3 ist schwer zu rennen. Die kombination macht es.
Ansonnsten alle tests.

Generell jede Art von Kategorie muss mindestens 90minuten laufen.
Gleichgültig ob VRAM OC, GPU OC, MemOC oder CPU-OC
Laws of Physics , Heatsoaking und noise generation.
Zwischen 45-90min, aber eigentlich sind es 90min minimum.