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Hat eigentlich mal jemand grad die optimalen Temperaturen für die '90er DTM Slicks? Im AC Forum gibts ja ne schöne Übersicht für alle Reifen,
aber da stehen die nicht mit drin.
Dat hier meine ich:
Hat eigentlich mal jemand grad die optimalen Temperaturen für die '90er DTM Slicks? Im AC Forum gibts ja ne schöne Übersicht für alle Reifen,
aber da stehen die nicht mit drin.
Dat hier meine ich:
LOTUS EXOS 125 Tyres
The Lotus Exos 125, uses specific slick tyres for dry and for wet conditions. Unfortunately in AC we don't have yet wet conditions, so for now you only get the dry tyres.
Those tyres have their optimum range temperature between 90°C and 120°C. Although it is a quite wide range, they do get pretty nasty if they cold down under 60°C, so be careful, especially on slow tracks like magione on cold days.
In terms of tyre wear, the tyres should be able to go through the whole fuel tank of the car without any big problems.
LOTUS EXOS 125 S1 Tyres
The Stage 1 version of the Exos is more specialised car, that also carries 4 different dry slicks compounds. Namely SuperSoft, Soft, Medium and Hard. Each compound has a very different range of optimum tyre temperatures and wear characteristics.
Super Soft: 85°C -110°C. The tyre will wear quite fast. Practically you'll be able to do 7-10 laps before having severe degradation
Soft: 105°C -125°C
The tyre will last a bit more than the SuperSofts. You could do around 15-20 laps but the degradation will be linear as you cover more distance
Medium: 90°C -115°C
The tyre will last for a long distance. It might be even possible to do a whole distance race, but you will experience slower laptimes towards the end
Hard: 110°C -135°C
A very stable tyre. Obviously less grip than the others but if the temperatures are good and the driving style adeguate, it might even be possible to do the best laptimes, towards the end of the stint, when the fuel tank will be empty.
The main thing to understand with those tyres (and also other AC tyres too), is that a SuperSoft tyre won't be always better than a Medium tyre. Depending on track, ambient and asphalt temperatures and driving styles, you need to find which compound suits the conditions better.
You might have seen in real life F1 that sometimes drivers&teams use the harder tyre to make faster laptimes in race, or the other way around. It really depends to a variety of factors, so don't take anything as granted.
Road legal tyres
Street and semislicks are road legal compounds, used on the road. They wear out slightly. Their main problem is overheating, but after you have overheat them you can wait and start again, they can give similar grip even after lots of km's. In the end they will wear and lose grip totally.
Street tyres optimum temp: 75°C - 85°C but "easy" under and over those temps. Very easy to overheat after some laps on a circuit, especially on fast corners.
Semislicks: 75°C - 100°C but a bit less grip under that and overheat quite faster over that. They have more grip of course and can resist more fast laps, but do not like much abuse and drifting. They wear gradually and lose grip km after km.
GT2 slicks: The main difference of the GT2 cars is that manufacturers are actively developing tyres during the season and bring different compounds on the various tracks. We can't of course simulate specific compounds for specific tracks, but we offer 5 different compounds
SuperSoft: 90-105°C Don't like to be driven under or over that range. They wear out very fast
Soft : 90-105°C as Supersofts. they wear out fast
Medium: 85°C-105°C as supersofts over their range. They wear out in a linear gradual way
Hard: 80-100°C a tiny bit easier than supersoft outside their range but nothing too radical. They wear just a tiny bit after the initial laps and then stay quite stable for a long time until they start to lose lot's of grip
SuperHard: 80-100°C as Hards. They wear a tiny bit and stay stable for lot's of laps until they let go.
GT3 slicks. The biggest difference between GT2 and GT3 cars are their tyres. GT3 tyres are fixed for the whole season and the organization decides what tyres the car have to use. We provide 3 compounds that are not equivalent to their GT2 counterparts (worse).
Softs: 80-110°C . Wear VERY fast. We've been told that they were actually used only for a couple of times in qualifying.
Mediums: 75-105°C Wear linearly and predictably. all around tyre
Hard: 70-100°C Wear a tiny bit after a couple of laps and stay stable for a long sting. Not great grip but they are predictable and can be used in a wide variety of tracks and temperatures. Often "forced" by regulations on cars.
Hypercars slicks (Zonda R and 599XX) are a bit worse parents of the GT3 tyres. Let's say a generation behind. Rest of their characteristics is very similar to the GT3 tyres.
Vintage F1 67 Tyres
We provide just one compound for such tyres, although we learned there were actually different compounds. As a matter of fact, there is documentation reporting that Jim Clark choose the tyre that permit him to slide more for the race at Monza. Unfortunately there is not enough documentation for the compounds so for now we stick with just one compound. If anybody has more info regarding the matter, I'd be happy to discuss with it.
optimum range 50-90°C The tyres are good at low temps, and can withstand overheating pretty well. The tyre wear is gradual, you can expect to do a full race without problems, except if you overdrive and overheat them too much.
The tyre ranges are not perfect ranges but a min max range that you might not be able to understand a difference in tyre grip. Temperatures are also vary quite widely from straight to inside a turn, so optimally you need a tyre that stays at the lower end of the optimum temperature just before the braking zone and at the higher end of the optimum temperature at the exit of the turn. Not so easy to obtain.
In AC going outside the optimum range, doesn't mean the car will become undriveable. This characteristic is a double sword. You might think the car is good, but you're not driving on the optimum grip, so you'll lose time without understanding it. There's depth to be found and explored within the AC tyre model.
Another hint for tyre temperatures, as in real life, use more camber to heat faster a part of the tyre tread and then this dissipate to the rest of the tyre. More camber, more heat, less camber, less heat.
Hope you find it interesting.
The Lotus Exos 125, uses specific slick tyres for dry and for wet conditions. Unfortunately in AC we don't have yet wet conditions, so for now you only get the dry tyres.
Those tyres have their optimum range temperature between 90°C and 120°C. Although it is a quite wide range, they do get pretty nasty if they cold down under 60°C, so be careful, especially on slow tracks like magione on cold days.
In terms of tyre wear, the tyres should be able to go through the whole fuel tank of the car without any big problems.
LOTUS EXOS 125 S1 Tyres
The Stage 1 version of the Exos is more specialised car, that also carries 4 different dry slicks compounds. Namely SuperSoft, Soft, Medium and Hard. Each compound has a very different range of optimum tyre temperatures and wear characteristics.
Super Soft: 85°C -110°C. The tyre will wear quite fast. Practically you'll be able to do 7-10 laps before having severe degradation
Soft: 105°C -125°C
The tyre will last a bit more than the SuperSofts. You could do around 15-20 laps but the degradation will be linear as you cover more distance
Medium: 90°C -115°C
The tyre will last for a long distance. It might be even possible to do a whole distance race, but you will experience slower laptimes towards the end
Hard: 110°C -135°C
A very stable tyre. Obviously less grip than the others but if the temperatures are good and the driving style adeguate, it might even be possible to do the best laptimes, towards the end of the stint, when the fuel tank will be empty.
The main thing to understand with those tyres (and also other AC tyres too), is that a SuperSoft tyre won't be always better than a Medium tyre. Depending on track, ambient and asphalt temperatures and driving styles, you need to find which compound suits the conditions better.
You might have seen in real life F1 that sometimes drivers&teams use the harder tyre to make faster laptimes in race, or the other way around. It really depends to a variety of factors, so don't take anything as granted.
Road legal tyres
Street and semislicks are road legal compounds, used on the road. They wear out slightly. Their main problem is overheating, but after you have overheat them you can wait and start again, they can give similar grip even after lots of km's. In the end they will wear and lose grip totally.
Street tyres optimum temp: 75°C - 85°C but "easy" under and over those temps. Very easy to overheat after some laps on a circuit, especially on fast corners.
Semislicks: 75°C - 100°C but a bit less grip under that and overheat quite faster over that. They have more grip of course and can resist more fast laps, but do not like much abuse and drifting. They wear gradually and lose grip km after km.
GT2 slicks: The main difference of the GT2 cars is that manufacturers are actively developing tyres during the season and bring different compounds on the various tracks. We can't of course simulate specific compounds for specific tracks, but we offer 5 different compounds
SuperSoft: 90-105°C Don't like to be driven under or over that range. They wear out very fast
Soft : 90-105°C as Supersofts. they wear out fast
Medium: 85°C-105°C as supersofts over their range. They wear out in a linear gradual way
Hard: 80-100°C a tiny bit easier than supersoft outside their range but nothing too radical. They wear just a tiny bit after the initial laps and then stay quite stable for a long time until they start to lose lot's of grip
SuperHard: 80-100°C as Hards. They wear a tiny bit and stay stable for lot's of laps until they let go.
GT3 slicks. The biggest difference between GT2 and GT3 cars are their tyres. GT3 tyres are fixed for the whole season and the organization decides what tyres the car have to use. We provide 3 compounds that are not equivalent to their GT2 counterparts (worse).
Softs: 80-110°C . Wear VERY fast. We've been told that they were actually used only for a couple of times in qualifying.
Mediums: 75-105°C Wear linearly and predictably. all around tyre
Hard: 70-100°C Wear a tiny bit after a couple of laps and stay stable for a long sting. Not great grip but they are predictable and can be used in a wide variety of tracks and temperatures. Often "forced" by regulations on cars.
Hypercars slicks (Zonda R and 599XX) are a bit worse parents of the GT3 tyres. Let's say a generation behind. Rest of their characteristics is very similar to the GT3 tyres.
Vintage F1 67 Tyres
We provide just one compound for such tyres, although we learned there were actually different compounds. As a matter of fact, there is documentation reporting that Jim Clark choose the tyre that permit him to slide more for the race at Monza. Unfortunately there is not enough documentation for the compounds so for now we stick with just one compound. If anybody has more info regarding the matter, I'd be happy to discuss with it.
optimum range 50-90°C The tyres are good at low temps, and can withstand overheating pretty well. The tyre wear is gradual, you can expect to do a full race without problems, except if you overdrive and overheat them too much.
The tyre ranges are not perfect ranges but a min max range that you might not be able to understand a difference in tyre grip. Temperatures are also vary quite widely from straight to inside a turn, so optimally you need a tyre that stays at the lower end of the optimum temperature just before the braking zone and at the higher end of the optimum temperature at the exit of the turn. Not so easy to obtain.
In AC going outside the optimum range, doesn't mean the car will become undriveable. This characteristic is a double sword. You might think the car is good, but you're not driving on the optimum grip, so you'll lose time without understanding it. There's depth to be found and explored within the AC tyre model.
Another hint for tyre temperatures, as in real life, use more camber to heat faster a part of the tyre tread and then this dissipate to the rest of the tyre. More camber, more heat, less camber, less heat.
Hope you find it interesting.
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