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If you look at the RTLS they do not change with the cas latency, also the unchanged TCWL and TRDWR values when Cas is changing is a bit suspicious to me. I doubt that memtest run is real, probably changing timings in os.

You can also use round trip latency disabled and enter the rtl/iol values in manually. You will skip the 3F postcode with round trip latency disabled, and typing in the rtls/iols manually will train them tight.

The later bios for me on the XII Apex i have found it easier to boot higher frequencies, often on older bioses i see 3F before 55 a lot, in terms of stability i did not see a big difference. I haven't seem to find a way to combat this, TRDRD_SG isn't the issue as well. I recommend trying to...

Personally i would choose the first, but of-course lottery is involved to get a good matching pair.

He is correct. Gear two at "1N" is actually effectively "2N". Setting "2N" in gear 2 would be "4N".

I am assuming it is dual rank bdie, so you can drop trdrd_dr and twrrd_dr.

Try enabling round trip latency in memory training algorithms if you haven't already.

Enable round trip latency in memory training algorithms.[/automerge]

Ordered the 4400C17 1.5V 2x16 Ripjaws from memoryc, hopefully these are good. I would hope it is the strongest bin on the market due to binning at C17 and highest frequency.

I am really having trouble setting the right slopes for 4600. I have spent two days but there is inconsistency and i don't have a good testing methodology for it. Can anyone here share their process to finding the correct combination, perhaps a spreadsheet showing the combos you tried for...

For me the biggest issue was booting consistently, i am testing GSAT now for slopes and have made some passes i just need to make sure this will work boot to boot. If i did TCWL 16 this would not even boot consistently. (With TCWL 13 i use TRDWRS at 14, This is the same performance as TCWL 16...

I have found the issue with booting 4600 consistently for me. With Cas 16 i need TCWL 13 to boot consistently. I have got this booting consistently now and i am working on the slope values, i hope i can have this fully GSAT stable soon.

https://www.overclock.net/threads/running-gsat-in-windows-10-with-windows-subsystem-for-linux-wsl.1747674/#post-28448038 1620910994 For me this has been the best cpu core/ring/imc test for daily gaming. Even on AVX games like battlefield there is no issues with stability. The standard version...

My current daily settings below, still yet to tune SA / IO i don't need this much. For TWR it gave me issues in karhu even at 20 so i just left it on auto for now. My set of dual rank seems to hold me back with 4500+ but 4400C16 is enough for now. Spend time on 4500 but it doesn't post...

That is a very nice strong kit you have there.

I think the big variation of dual rank memory kits is the frequencies they can achieve, some kits will do 4700+ and train this no issues. Some kits seem to struggle 4500 and above, also some kits struggle to train cl17 on the apex 4500 and above. My cpu is on direct die custom loop so...

Personally i have invested a lot of time in slopes with Z490 apex + 3200C14 Dual rank bdie. It has got me no gains, I am starting to think my memory kit is the issue here and i need a more selected kit. Booting to 4400 C16 / C17 is not a problem, 4500 and above becomes an issue with mch...

Has anyone had issues with Z490 Apex + Dual Rank Bdie. I am using HCI Memtest and tightening TWR as my last timing but even at 19 it will error out in about 300% or about 2 or so hours in. On auto there is no errors to 400% even. HCI is the only program that has been picking up TWR for me but...

Have you tested twrwr_sg at 6 @Phoenix2000, i have noticed 7 performs better than 6 in aida/imlc.

Is this good or bad? I am on a 10700k 53/49 HT OFF. The aida performance is about 33.4ns but the bandwidth is lower than a 10900k at same timings/frequency as of course it has less cores.